Al Qaeda (What the Bush Administration Has Done)

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Very interesting news report I saw on CNN this morning. Al Qaeda is losing support and falling apart over in the Middle East Region of the World. Now alot of you on this board are quick to bash Bush for the war and whatnot. Saying the War was a wrong deed and how we should withdraw now. But look at what we have done there. I felt such a sense of pride knowing that Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups are dismantling in fear of prosecution/etc. So before you're quick to bash the government take a closer look.

[freedom4u_n_me]

I hope their report is accurate, not only for the USA but for countries all over the world!

However, I don't believe that the Iraq war made this happen. I am not a pessimist, but, I can not believe that what has happened to the Iraqi people, all of the lives lost of by courageous service men and women is a fair trade. I believe that if this is correct info, that their are many factors involved and that this administration had very little to do with the dismantling of Al Queda, but, I do pray that it is true!

[Taopoet]

Far be it for me to question the news of subsiding peace, for I'm all about ending violence in the human species, but I do question any propaganda having to do with Al Qaeda. Here's a sampling of sources that discuss the myth we have built into a grave enemy. It's interesting to me that in the current political climate in our country, where the democrats (Obama in particular, but Clinton too) are drawing twice the voters to the polls as the republicans, it suddenly seems very important that the current republican administration announce success in their (imperialist?) endeavors. If it's true that violence is subsiding, I'll be the first to dance in the streets and hug my neighbors! I just question the context.

From a 2002 article by the Christian Science Monitor:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0523/p11s02-coop.html
The United States and its allies in the war on terrorism must defuse the widespread image of Al Qaeda as a ubiquitous, super-organized terror network and call it as it is: a loose collection of groups and individuals that doesn't even refer to itself as "Al Qaeda." Most of the affiliated groups have distinct goals within their own countries or regions, and pose little direct threat to the United States. Washington must also be careful not to imply that any attack anywhere is by definition, or likely, the work of Al Qaeda.

Propaganda Matrix, 2005:
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles...damyth.htm
Leonid Shebarshin, ex-chief of the Soviet Foreign Intelligence Service, who headsthe Russian National Economic Security Service consulting company, said ... “We have agreed that [al-Qaeda] is not a group but a notion. The fight against that all-mighty ubiquitous myth deliberately linked to Islam is of great advantage for the Americans as it targets the oil-rich Muslim regions,” Shebarshin emphasized.

The Guardian, reviewing the powerful documentary "The Power of Nightmares" (banned in the USA), 2004:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/oct...asting.bbc
"In an age when all the grand ideas have lost credibility, fear of a phantom enemy is all the politicians have left to maintain their power." ... The Power of Nightmares seeks to overturn much of what is widely believed about Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida. The latter, it argues, is not an organised international network. It does not have members or a leader. It does not have "sleeper cells". It does not have an overall strategy. In fact, it barely exists at all, except as an idea about cleansing a corrupt world through religious violence.

Asia Times, 2004:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FB14Aa03.html
September 11, 2001 - with its small army of aerial suicide bombers - indeed turned history upside down. But then the whole US intelligence matrix simply could not admit that the country had been struck by a small sect - and not by a sinister, global multinational with unlimited reach.... Alain Chouet, a high-level expert at the French Ministry of Defense, is one among many to sustain that this is how the al-Qaeda myth was born - encouraged by the Bush administration spin machine and fully embraced, for the opposite reasons, by the Arab-Muslim world.

There are too many sources to list here. A Google search for Al Qaeda returns loads of major US news articles about the organized empire of evil; a search for Al Qaeda Myth returns countless worldwide news articles about this compelling "Wag the Dog" US invention.

[Taopoet]

Taopoet Wrote:Far be it for me to question the news of subsiding peace,

Oh my. Did I say that? Sorry, folks. I MEANT to say exactly the opposite. Let's not call that a Freudian slip, for I truly am a pacifist. Forgive me.

[shearwater]

Some people look at the cup and call it half empty. Others look at the cup and call it half full. Opinion is cheap. The fact that a small group of terrorists destroyed some our major buildings, killing over 3,000 people, in New York City; and would have destroyed our Capitol and the Pentagon in Washington DC, and that they were trained in Afghanistan, is proof enough.